In the November 18, 2024, meeting of the Distributed Energy Resources Task Force (DERTF) stakeholders were invited to review and submit feedback on the upcoming Order 2222 Coordination Conference co-sponsored by MISO and OMS.
Please provide feedback on the following questions:
Please provide feedback by December 9, 2024.
Order 2222 Coordination – Feedback Due 12/9/24
ITC appreciates the opportunity to provide feedback on the topic of how TOs could be impacted by the coordination between Load Serving Entities and MISO when DER entities are looking to participate in the wholesale market. We also offer an idea for the February 2025 workshop. We think it would be valuable to have parties work through scenarios jointly as part of a project implementation process. This could be structured as a separate work effort (but the topic could be introduced in the Feb 2025 workshop). For example, a walkthrough of a registration process, a study process, and a bid or self-commit process, a MISO dispatch process, meter data polling, data reconciliation and settlement process set of workstreams are necessary so that all communications and data needed to accomplish these functions can be identified, and ownership, responsibilities, interfaces, access, timeframes, etc. worked out. A discussion of outage scheduling (no changes anticipated for TOs) may also be useful. For example, if an outage were to impact a potential injection bus for a DER Aggregation, how would the DER Aggregator find out? Lots of details to be considered moving forward.
Regarding the slide in the presentation MISO presented at the 11/18/24 DERTF (included below), TOs are supposed to:
The slide being referenced above and below is slide #4 titled "FERC has called for collaboration across jurisdictions and seams; successful implementation requires developing new frameworks" and is located at: https://cdn.misoenergy.org/20241118%20DERTF%20Item%2003%20OMS%20and%20MISO%20Coordination%20Discussion661035.pdf
Relative to the structure of this slide (which we tried to include but this interface does not allow pasting a picture) at one of the DERTF meetings, MISO identified that it had two separate processes--the first process was to ensure that DER entities were reliably connected to the electric grid. This was identified as being completed through the Affected System study. Once connected, both DER and demand response could propose to participate in a DER Aggregation - the Order 2222 study process.
The chart on the slide referenced above seems to have possibly merged the two as identified under the EDC list - see bullet 3 under EDC. This should perhaps be modified to: Confirm as proposed DER Aggregations can be operated reliably, including identifying any system upgrades if necessary.
Thank you,
Marguerite Wagner
ITC
Director Regulatory - Energy Markets & Innovation
mobile 512-931-9845
email mwagner01@itctransco.com
www.itc-holdings.com | www.modernizethegrid.com
27175 Energy Way | Novi, MI 48377
DTE Electric appreciates the opportunity to provide feedback on the Order 2222 Coordination Conference.
1. What discussion areas would be most useful in preparing for Order 2222?
DER Enrollments
It is currently unclear what process MISO will use to notify LBA/LSE about DER enrollments. EDCs performing the LBA/LSE role must design several activities in response to DERs located in their service territory joining MISO.
The process of bringing a DER to participate in MISO involves multiple steps under various authorities and may take an extended time (EDC Interconnection, MISO Enrollment, AFS, EDC Wholesale Distribution Agreement, etc.). There is an opportunity to make this process efficient by documenting roles and responsibilities at each step and setting clear expectations for all parties. This is an area where OMS could potentially take the lead.
DER Operations
The primary focus of EDCs is on the safety and reliability of the distribution system. In situations where there is a lack of confidence about a DER, due to insufficient time to study system impacts, an EDC may make a real-time decision to prevent any injecting generation to protect the grid. This may conflict with MISO participation by a DER and cause financial losses for DER Aggregators, followed by customer complaints.
Storm response and distribution emergency in general may impact DER’s RTO participation and even EDC’s ability to meet DER/DERA communication requirements. DTE would like to enter a discussion with MISO, OMS and other EDCs on curtailing or placing DER's online during real-time system security events.
MISO has previously stated that for communications where only one party is subject to MISO’s Tariff, FERC Order 2222 creates an obligation for communication, but execution is outside of MISO processes (see slide 4 in https://cdn.misoenergy.org/20240212%20DERTF%20Item%2003a%20Lines%20of%20Communication631746.pdf). DTE would like to initiate a discussion with MISO, OMS and other EDCs on the possible implementation of such requirements).
Metering
Will MISO Tariff metering requirements apply to DERs, ensuring all DERs and DERAs that enroll in MISO under Order 2222 must install the required metering and monitoring to ensure the reliability of the Local Distribution system and BES?
Dispute Resolution
There may be an opportunity for OMS to lead standardization in the area of dispute resolution between DER Owners, DER Aggregators, EDCs, and MISO. This applies to DER enrollment in MISO and meter data submissions. A clear, simple, and fast meter data dispute resolution process, set by MPSC, will help improve efficiency and save time for all actors (DERA, EDC). This process should include defined communication timelines between all parties (i.e., time to submit a complaint, expected response time, time to notify, time to review meter data, etc.).
Cybersecurity
3. Do you have potential questions for the February 18, 2025, Order 2222 Conference?
Advanced Energy United appreciates the opportunity to submit these comments in response to the Midcontinent Independent System Operator, Inc.’s (MISO) request for stakeholder feedback on the upcoming Order 2222 Coordination Conference co-sponsored by MISO and OMS, following the November 18, 2024 Distributed Energy Resources Task Force meeting.
Advanced Energy United is a national association of businesses making the energy we use secure, clean, and affordable. Advanced Energy United is the only industry association in the United States that represents the full range of advanced energy technologies and services, both grid-scale and distributed. Advanced energy includes energy efficiency, demand response, energy storage, wind, solar, hydro, nuclear, electric vehicles, and more. The comments expressed in this submission represent the position of Advanced Energy United but may not represent the views of any particular member.
Advanced Energy United appreciates the opportunity to provide these comments and looks forward to continuing to work with MISO on Order 2222 implementation and coordination. Please reach out to Lisa Barrett with any questions.
Respectfully submitted,
Lisa Barrett
202.380.1950 x3177
lbarrett@advancedenergyunited.org
MISO DISTRIBUTED ENERGY TASK FORCE (DERTF)
COMMENTS OF KATHAN ENERGY CONSULTING
Kathan Energy Consulting thanks MISO for the opportunity to provide feedback on the DERTF Order 2222 Coordination Conference planned for February 18, 2025.
Kathan Energy Consulting is a small consultancy dedicated to the development of sound economic and technical distributed energy resource policy. Since Kathan Energy Consulting’s President, Dr. David Kathan, was the lead analyst at FERC on Order 2222 prior to his retirement at the end of 2022, implementing FERC Order 2222 is a key part of Kathan Energy Consulting practice. The primary purpose of these comments is to highlight important FERC Order 2222 implementation issues related to coordination that should be covered in the Coordination Conference.
COMMENTS
Kathan Energy Consulting limits its response to the first and last questions listed on the DERTF request for stakeholder input, as follows:
What discussion areas would be most useful in preparing for Order 2222?
Kathan Energy Consulting recommends that the Order 2222 Coordination Conference planned for Feb. 18, 2025 include an in-depth discussion of the following issues:
Are there specific subject matter experts that you recommend receive an invitation?
Kathan Energy Consulting is pleased to offer its President, Dr. David Kathan, as a subject matter expert on FERC Order 2222, particularly on (a) coordination necessary RTOs/ISOs, electric distribution companies, state and local regulators, and DER aggregators, and (b) data sharing rules and the use of common DER data sources.
Respectfully submitted:
David Kathan, Ph.D.
President
Kathan Energy Consulting
4920 Dorset Avenue
Chevy Chase, MD 20815
Telephone: (301) 461-7252
December 9, 2024
Memorandum
To: | [DER Task Force (DERTF] (MISO) |
From: | Entergy services, LLC Or THE Entergy operating companies |
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Entergy OPERATING companies feedback ON Order 2222 Coordination Conference (20241118)
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Date: | [December 9th, 2024] |
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The Entergy Operating Companies (EOCs or Entergy)1 appreciate the opportunity to provide feedback on [MISO’s Order 2222 Coordination Conference].
What discussion areas would be most useful in preparing for Order 2222?
Aggregations Involving Multiple EDCs – Discussion of any associated impacts and or process changes that may arise especially during the eligibility and reliability review periods.
DER Registration Tools – Additional discussion around tools that will improve and automate manual functions. Some examples include location enrollment services, a DER Registry and/or a DERMS.
Dispute Resolution – Discussion around the additional resources that may be required from MISO to support future disputes with clear illustrations, charts and associated timelines showing step by step of where potential disputes will flow depending on whether it’s meter data; eligibility/reliability reviews or performance validations/settlements.
Operational Coordination – Additional discussions around timing, regarding both Day ahead and Real time markets (DA/RT), to include information flow between entities and associated timing and associated deadlines and ties to performance validation & settlements.
Data Sharing – Protocols & CEII protection mechanisms.
Attachment TT – Discussion of how it will apply to the various types of aggregations with examples to include the illustration of how this will later impact performance validation & settlement functions.
Real-time DER management, as DOCs are not currently equipped to handle “market activities” suggesting the need for a real-time analysis desk or a similar function within DOCs. This would necessitate funding and implementation in parallel with the technological tools needed to facilitate DER management.
Are any entities missing from slide 4 of Item 03 posted presentation that should be considered in coordination?
Renewable Developers since they are not always DEROs or DERAs
ARCs including – POCs from specific participating retail customers i.e. Walmart; Home Depot etc.
Do you have potential questions for the February 18, 2025, Order 2222 Conference?
Can a DER participating via wholesale programs through an aggregation later participate in retail programs and if not how will that potential gap in the process be addressed and by whom?
Will Settlement statements from MISO related to an aggregation clearly illustrate a DERs location regarding both the CPNode and EPNode to properly evaluate performance validation and settlements?
Historically the MISO Market Settlements group lacked the sufficient resources to address disputes. How will MISO address this lack of resources considering FERC Order 2222 and the potential for increases in disputes in future years?
What is the expected granularity of network models for aggregated DERs? The lack of clarity could impact modeling accuracy and the integration of DERs into the existing market structure.
Metering Reading Consistency – How do we begin to address the issue/gap related to the current metering requirements for DERAs as it relates to DRR-Type 1 program, as compared to the current revenue quality metering standards at LSEs?
Are there specific subject matter experts that you recommend receive an invitation?
Other RTO Experts from RTOs such as CAISO and NYISO that are further along in the FERC Order 2222 process.